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	<title>Comments on: Forgiveness and Cooperation</title>
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		<title>By: jprapp</title>
		<link>http://blog.dmcleish.id.au/2008/03/20/forgiveness-and-cooperation/comment-page-1/#comment-166</link>
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		<description>You wrote that - “‘turn the other cheek’ is high on the list of least-observed commandments in Christianity, at least in western society.”

You don’t know this.  You’d need a sample population observed for a ratio of “offending incidents” to the praxis of turning the other cheek behaviors, and, something like a double-blind study comparing Christians to non-Christians for the same behaviors justified on other (non-religious) grounds.  Until then, what you’re saying is merely assertive.  It doesn’t fit into the same category as the empirical studies of altruism in biology nor to the scientifically simulated TFT games.  There are TFT simulations showing that altruistic behaviors win.  And plenty of studies showing alternative grounds (non-Christian) for shared moral intuitions mapped up to ethical behaviors because of generic meta-concepts or even peer review motivating ethical accountability.  

That you’ve cut some of your moorings to Christianity while retrospecting on your personal grounds for morality shows that you’re in a category similar to atheists who convert to Christianity – what’s the mix between shared and differential grounds for the competing codes? 

Cheers,

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote that &#8211; “‘turn the other cheek’ is high on the list of least-observed commandments in Christianity, at least in western society.”</p>
<p>You don’t know this.  You’d need a sample population observed for a ratio of “offending incidents” to the praxis of turning the other cheek behaviors, and, something like a double-blind study comparing Christians to non-Christians for the same behaviors justified on other (non-religious) grounds.  Until then, what you’re saying is merely assertive.  It doesn’t fit into the same category as the empirical studies of altruism in biology nor to the scientifically simulated TFT games.  There are TFT simulations showing that altruistic behaviors win.  And plenty of studies showing alternative grounds (non-Christian) for shared moral intuitions mapped up to ethical behaviors because of generic meta-concepts or even peer review motivating ethical accountability.  </p>
<p>That you’ve cut some of your moorings to Christianity while retrospecting on your personal grounds for morality shows that you’re in a category similar to atheists who convert to Christianity – what’s the mix between shared and differential grounds for the competing codes? </p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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